SATURDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2006
The world and the Christian church are quickly witnessing the creation of a "god' that all unholy men can worship. There is an invasion into the church of this "god". He is Christian in appearance without being Christian in Biblical theology. His is a kind of hybrid Christianity with a pious facade that already has millions of church members quickly offering their souls
Hello, as a reminder, no offence intended...i really was wondering if u know of any people in this business with good character. That's what i liked about working as a teacher, people actually had good character.
But obviously i should have put in for a out side sales position... maybe the one bill arvo (detroit) had as out side... or maybe inside .. obviously it is an easy job.. (in my dreams huh)
In california thermotron sales was "get the customer drunk and find out how much money they really had to spend.
Why you ask... well... if Tom patterson can't (and bill arvo couldn't, but hil could) identify the different liars and thieves and embezzlers of your own company and the others that u have worked with... How in the world do you identify the bull the customer might say and your competition?
When Bill bench told me to lie and deceive the customer the customer at the navel station in San Diego, I said to Bill I realize my job to you is to get the customer to sign off... but unfortunity this group is not as dumb as you hoped for: So you tell me what lies they will believe and I will transmit that info, Heck that old sales man who sold the job was useless.. All he could do was say” well it will work at some of the specifications, but we just don’t know which ones...
But i guess the rule is the technician they sent is dumb and we will send someone smarter.
Obviously getting the customer to sign off is parliament, but there was no team work for this at russles or at thermo Ron. When Hil was sent to Litton on a bad project, the custiomer came to me and said .. Great now they are sending people to lie to me and tell me i don't know what i ordered and saw.
Not at all different from thermo Ron... except at thermotron there was daily thieft and embezzlement, Heck I found it so puzzling... that I asked the managemt there if they were a money laundering operation for the Mafa and what they budgeted for it. All these years later I still have not found another company that encouraged lying cheating, stealing, robbery theft and embezzlement, and as banish demonstrated libeling and slandering his co-workers, and drumming them out...
Funny last April i interviewed for a job in new jersey with Environmental specilities and wayne one of the co-owners said they had lost an( 800,000) eight hundred thousand dollar order because they couldn't meet the ship date. I said that is a shame because Dan O'Keff at thermotron says just lie to the customer and tell them what they want to hear because everyone has a slipping ship date, everyone lies to the customer anyway.(But I couldn't get excited about living in new jersey)
So I apologize if this is not common knowledge...
When u walk into a whore house in Los Vegas... most every body is a whore... even the patrons...
Good people with good character is actually hard to find..
or we can just pretend.
If this is new.....then...wow.. good thing i wrote a thesis on this and kept a journal with memos from thermotron.. I have taught on this a few times also.
So in all your wide years of experience do you know of any companies where good people work there?? Herman Miller in Holland seems to have a good rap.. but their management appears to be accountable and upstanding.. gee it even made the news paper a month ago..and it might be true?
Hmmm... Like the war Iraq with George bush and Dick chenny, opps... we got bad info on the W of MD... and no one gets fired for doing a bad job... it must be loyalty.
oh well ...cheers
But obviously i should have put in for a out side sales position... maybe the one bill arvo (detroit) had as out side... or maybe inside .. obviously it is an easy job.. (in my dreams huh)
In california thermotron sales was "get the customer drunk and find out how much money they really had to spend.
Why you ask... well... if Tom patterson can't (and bill arvo couldn't, but hil could) identify the different liars and thieves and embezzlers of your own company and the others that u have worked with... How in the world do you identify the bull the customer might say and your competition?
When Bill bench told me to lie and deceive the customer the customer at the navel station in San Diego, I said to Bill I realize my job to you is to get the customer to sign off... but unfortunity this group is not as dumb as you hoped for: So you tell me what lies they will believe and I will transmit that info, Heck that old sales man who sold the job was useless.. All he could do was say” well it will work at some of the specifications, but we just don’t know which ones...
But i guess the rule is the technician they sent is dumb and we will send someone smarter.
Obviously getting the customer to sign off is parliament, but there was no team work for this at russles or at thermo Ron. When Hil was sent to Litton on a bad project, the custiomer came to me and said .. Great now they are sending people to lie to me and tell me i don't know what i ordered and saw.
Not at all different from thermo Ron... except at thermotron there was daily thieft and embezzlement, Heck I found it so puzzling... that I asked the managemt there if they were a money laundering operation for the Mafa and what they budgeted for it. All these years later I still have not found another company that encouraged lying cheating, stealing, robbery theft and embezzlement, and as banish demonstrated libeling and slandering his co-workers, and drumming them out...
Funny last April i interviewed for a job in new jersey with Environmental specilities and wayne one of the co-owners said they had lost an( 800,000) eight hundred thousand dollar order because they couldn't meet the ship date. I said that is a shame because Dan O'Keff at thermotron says just lie to the customer and tell them what they want to hear because everyone has a slipping ship date, everyone lies to the customer anyway.(But I couldn't get excited about living in new jersey)
So I apologize if this is not common knowledge...
When u walk into a whore house in Los Vegas... most every body is a whore... even the patrons...
Good people with good character is actually hard to find..
or we can just pretend.
If this is new.....then...wow.. good thing i wrote a thesis on this and kept a journal with memos from thermotron.. I have taught on this a few times also.
So in all your wide years of experience do you know of any companies where good people work there?? Herman Miller in Holland seems to have a good rap.. but their management appears to be accountable and upstanding.. gee it even made the news paper a month ago..and it might be true?
Hmmm... Like the war Iraq with George bush and Dick chenny, opps... we got bad info on the W of MD... and no one gets fired for doing a bad job... it must be loyalty.
oh well ...cheers
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hell o, i was talking to hil sysbesma about t-land and was wondering what kind of openings do u have on the west coast?
Un less you are running the same kind of shop when hil was there.. where skill, ability and performance don't matter.. (quote from dean tripp)
hello hil... i was in holland and talking to stan van lear.. and some other guy at "turners " company..any way i came across this add.. and was wondering is this what it was about when u and i worked there..???
what's the con job on this one?.. as i have always had to ask some one else what was said.. as u said .. i did't believe any of tom banishes lies.. the the thief i worked with .. greg johenson his pet.
He embessled over 50,000 dollars and the last year he spent selling realestate. as u know he was fired by the next company enseco for thief and embezzlement, and when i talked to randy the boss/owner at enseco they were surprised that someone who worked for thermotron for over 3 years wasn't any good and could on ly change sonolids..
But hil as u know tom bannash promoted lying stealing and embesslement.. " and his i lied for u management" and his "it's ok to be currupt because everyone's currupt! yes, the west coast was a den of liers and theves when he was there.
yes thermotron does offer opportunity ..
i guesss mark lammers was right when he told me that "good people don't work here" or at least at that time
Hi Paul, I had to look several times to verify it was the same company we'd worked for in the past.
That Unique Bonus System sounds like quite a carrot, doesn't it? Very interesting, but I don't think it will take too long for the newly hired to see the true colors. Hil
Job Seekers: View Job Date: 5/25/2004 Company: Thermotron Industries (a Venturedyne Ltd. Company) 291 Kollen Park Dr Holland, MI 49423 Company Profile: View Company Profile
Information Category: Technician-Refrigeration Position: Field Service Technician:Refrigeration Above Company also posted this job under: T echnician-Chillers Technician-Refrigeration Technician-Service,
HVAC Position Location: California City: Ventura, Thousand Oaks, Oxnard, Simi Valley area
Specialty Field: Commercial Industrial Institutional Residential Minimum Training/Education Required: High School: Technical Schooling or Degree Minimum Years Experience: 3-5 years Salary Range: Negotiable based on experience Specific job responsibilities / qualifications required including certifications: Thermotron Industries is looking for Refrigeration Professionals. DO YOU WANT TO FEEL LIKE YOU ARE BUILDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS? Is this your dream? Maybe you have thought of doing this, yet you worry about all the money needed to finance carrying inventory, managing accounts receivable, buying and maintaining service vans, having to hire and pay employees, overhead expenses, customers who won't pay their bills and the list goes on..... Thermotron has developed a unique opportunity for our Technicians to have the freedom to and satisfaction of building a profitable business, without the hassles, headaches and money worries. As a direct employee, our technicians get to be self-directed and develop our service business while sharing in the success through our UNIQUE BONUS PROGRAM. If you qualify for this unique opportunity, WE WILL PROVIDE AND INVEST IN YOU: * A Service Van with gas, insurance and maintenance expenses covered. * All major refrigeration repair equipment and electronic test and calibration instruments. * Business and financial training, information and reports. * Management of customer credit issues, collections and financial issues. * Inventory / Repair parts. * Necessary business, training and travel expenses. * Technical training, both on the job and classroom. * Technical support via phone to help with "challenging" equipment. * A list of existing and potential customers within your territory. * Administrative support for typing, quoting, etc. * Incentive program for developin g new customers. * A competitive base pay with a combination of bonus for increased revenue and profit. * Comprehensive company benefits package. YOU PROVIDE AND INVEST IN THERMOTRON: * YOUR TIME: Can you schedule and manage your time effectively and really build a business? Are you flexible in scheduling to meet your customer needs? * YOUR TALENT: Do you have what it takes to learn how to successfully service Thermotron's high end cascade systems and other equipment? *YOUR DRIVE: Do you have the stamina and focus necessary to build a profitable business? Can you develop a customer base? Identify and Satisfy customer needs? Can you build on-going customer loyalty? * With the knowledge that you gain and your continued success, you will then pass on your expertise and contribute starting customers to the next Refrigeration Professional to learn and grow with Thermotron. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AND UP TO THE CHALLENGE, PLEASE CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY. You do not need to have an exi sting resume, just call and talk to us about this unique opportunity.
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hell o, i was talking to hil sysbesma about t-land and was wondering what kind of openings do u have on the west coast?
Un less you are running the same kind of shop when hil was there.. where skill, ability and performance don't matter.. (quote from dean tripp)
hello hil... i was in holland and talking to stan van lear.. and some other guy at "turners " company..any way i came across this add.. and was wondering is this what it was about when u and i worked there..???
what's the con job on this one?.. as i have always had to ask some one else what was said.. as u said .. i did't believe any of tom banishes lies.. the the thief i worked with .. greg johenson his pet.
He embessled over 50,000 dollars and the last year he spent selling realestate. as u know he was fired by the next company enseco for thief and embezzlement, and when i talked to randy the boss/owner at enseco they were surprised that someone who worked for thermotron for over 3 years wasn't any good and could on ly change sonolids..
But hil as u know tom bannash promoted lying stealing and embesslement.. " and his i lied for u management" and his "it's ok to be currupt because everyone's currupt! yes, the west coast was a den of liers and theves when he was there.
yes thermotron does offer opportunity ..
i guesss mark lammers was right when he told me that "good people don't work here" or at least at that time
Hi Paul, I had to look several times to verify it was the same company we'd worked for in the past.
That Unique Bonus System sounds like quite a carrot, doesn't it? Very interesting, but I don't think it will take too long for the newly hired to see the true colors. Hil
Job Seekers: View Job Date: 5/25/2004 Company: Thermotron Industries (a Venturedyne Ltd. Company) 291 Kollen Park Dr Holland, MI 49423 Company Profile: View Company Profile
Information Category: Technician-Refrigeration Position: Field Service Technician:Refrigeration Above Company also posted this job under: T echnician-Chillers Technician-Refrigeration Technician-Service,
HVAC Position Location: California City: Ventura, Thousand Oaks, Oxnard, Simi Valley area
Specialty Field: Commercial Industrial Institutional Residential Minimum Training/Education Required: High School: Technical Schooling or Degree Minimum Years Experience: 3-5 years Salary Range: Negotiable based on experience Specific job responsibilities / qualifications required including certifications: Thermotron Industries is looking for Refrigeration Professionals. DO YOU WANT TO FEEL LIKE YOU ARE BUILDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS? Is this your dream? Maybe you have thought of doing this, yet you worry about all the money needed to finance carrying inventory, managing accounts receivable, buying and maintaining service vans, having to hire and pay employees, overhead expenses, customers who won't pay their bills and the list goes on..... Thermotron has developed a unique opportunity for our Technicians to have the freedom to and satisfaction of building a profitable business, without the hassles, headaches and money worries. As a direct employee, our technicians get to be self-directed and develop our service business while sharing in the success through our UNIQUE BONUS PROGRAM. If you qualify for this unique opportunity, WE WILL PROVIDE AND INVEST IN YOU: * A Service Van with gas, insurance and maintenance expenses covered. * All major refrigeration repair equipment and electronic test and calibration instruments. * Business and financial training, information and reports. * Management of customer credit issues, collections and financial issues. * Inventory / Repair parts. * Necessary business, training and travel expenses. * Technical training, both on the job and classroom. * Technical support via phone to help with "challenging" equipment. * A list of existing and potential customers within your territory. * Administrative support for typing, quoting, etc. * Incentive program for developin g new customers. * A competitive base pay with a combination of bonus for increased revenue and profit. * Comprehensive company benefits package. YOU PROVIDE AND INVEST IN THERMOTRON: * YOUR TIME: Can you schedule and manage your time effectively and really build a business? Are you flexible in scheduling to meet your customer needs? * YOUR TALENT: Do you have what it takes to learn how to successfully service Thermotron's high end cascade systems and other equipment? *YOUR DRIVE: Do you have the stamina and focus necessary to build a profitable business? Can you develop a customer base? Identify and Satisfy customer needs? Can you build on-going customer loyalty? * With the knowledge that you gain and your continued success, you will then pass on your expertise and contribute starting customers to the next Refrigeration Professional to learn and grow with Thermotron. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AND UP TO THE CHALLENGE, PLEASE CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY. You do not need to have an exi sting resume, just call and talk to us about this unique opportunity.
